[IBL] IBL: More thoughts on a 2020 campaign

Fri Jul 24 22:10:34 EDT 2020

Agreed, the number of opt out players was really not large at all. There
may be a few more UC than normal next year with opt outs plus the typical
injured guys, but I don’t see any reason to treat those 14 differently.

I would like to see a poll to figure out how we want to proceed. It seemed
like last month, a lot of people preferred to play 162 IBL games with usage
prorated to a full season. I think my big question (directed to Sean) is
could some regression be applied to the cards so make them a bit more
“normal?”

As far as a Plan B, I think the full 60 games would have to be played by
MLB to play with a fresh card set next year. I think if the season isn’t
played to completion, we can then re-visit the topic. But I say we just
move forward with the idea we’ll have a card set from this 60-game stretch.

NJR Mike

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 8:18 PM Patrick Gibbs <pjgibbs at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah, it is a lot fewer players than I thought. UC21 seems reasonable to me.
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 5:15 PM Brent Cunningham
> <gettysburg.generals at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rusty mentioned a poll during IBL All Star Week.  I would think the 14
> players that opted out would simply be UC21.  I think every owner has dealt
> with keeping UC players and a short roster before, some of us with multiple
> UC's, so it shouldn't really be an issue in my opinion.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brent Cunningham
> > Owner/Manager
> > Gettysburg Generals Baseball Club
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 6:46 PM Patrick Gibbs <pjgibbs at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> With MLB underway we should push this discussion to a conclusion as it
> >> will very quickly impact the IBL free agent and trade market.
> >>
> >> One huge issue if we use this year's MLB stats for next year's IBL
> >> cards is going to be what to do with players who opt out this year.
> >>
> >> And we should have a Plan B should MLB not make it to the end of the
> >> regular season.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 9:51 AM Mike Monostra <monostram1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > In regard to rules changes, can we PLEASE not put in the new extra
> innings rule with the runner on second base? I think it would require a new
> version of GRS for starters, but most of all, it’s really campy and bush
> league. Hopefully it’s just a one year change.
> >> >
> >> > NJR Mike
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:41 PM Brent Cunningham <
> gettysburg.generals at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd vote for a 162 game season also.  If MLB plays 60, multiply
> starts/PA's/BF's by 2.7 (162/60) for the baseline numbers then figure the
> 75%/133%/150% from there.  Alternately, 150 games with none against the
> opposing conference and multiply by 2.5 to get the baseline numbers -
> hearken back to the good old days of MLB when teams in separate conferences
> didn't play until the World Series.
> >> >>
> >> >> If we're worried about low MLB usage players, then lower the PA/BF
> thresholds a bit.  If MLB is playing with larger rosters though, I don't
> think free agent availability is going to be as much of an issue - more
> players are likely to reach our thresholds.  Maybe lower them to 15 IP / 20
> BF it that's the worry - but it's already pretty low.
> >> >>
> >> >> Our rules will also change for next season with the permanent MLB
> changes, right?  Meaning 3 batter minimum or to end of inning and 26 man
> rosters.  I haven't heard if position players pitching is a permanent rule
> change, but I think it is - position players can only pitch if a game is in
> extra innings, or winning/losing by more than 6 runs.
> >> >>
> >> >> One other rule, that I've never really bothered to look up - the
> 26th (going forward 27th) man rule for double-headers.  If it's not a rule
> now, we should vote on this as part of a mid-season ballot.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >> Brent Cunningham
> >> >> Owner/Manager
> >> >> Gettysburg Generals Baseball Club
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 12:22 PM Russell Peltz <peltz38 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Personally, I don't think we should do anything too weird, and I'd
> like to play a full season.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Since we'll need to add more low-playing time players and even full
> time players will only have around 240 PA or 60 innings, I think we will
> need to regress everyone's stats toward league average similar to how we
> regress LH/RH splits to mitigate small sample weirdness.
> >> >>> The fewer PA/IP, the more their stats would be regressed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -Rusty
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:26 AM drm13 <dmenardmww at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Use pro-rated limits, expand ML rosters to 28 and Org rosters to
> 40/45 and play 162.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Some new teams catch lightning in a bottle and make a real run at
> the IBL championship?  Great.  Someone hits .430 or 30 hr over a 60g
> season?  Cool, add an asterisk to the record books.  Some of the
> alternatives we were considering with no season were wackier and less
> interesting.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> IMO, of course...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Dave
> >> >>>> SNH
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 11:12 AM Doug Palmer <
> aeronutty43 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> All,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> If we assume that the MLB plays a 60 game season (and right now,
> I’m not convinced that’s happening), I’m curious how (or even IF)
> extrapolating a 162 game season would work for the cards?  Wouldn’t there
> be some significant abnormalities?  Especially with players who get a
> relatively low number of AB’s?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I know it’s a bit premature.  Had I known that COVID would wipe
> out the season, I certainly wouldn’t have restarted a rebuilding project,
> but hindsight is 2020.  I think that’s what’s neutering my enthusiasm
> moving forward.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> The one thing that I think I can say without a doubt….COVID sucks.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Doug/BAL
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> "The citizens nourished their peaceful thoughts and plucked out their
> >> hateful thoughts as one would tend a garden." - Journey Under the Sea,
> >> R.A. Montgomery, 1979.
>
>
>
> --
> "The citizens nourished their peaceful thoughts and plucked out their
> hateful thoughts as one would tend a garden." - Journey Under the Sea,
> R.A. Montgomery, 1979.
>
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