[IBL] Rules Proposal...

[Mike Monostra]

Hah, I’m sorry I asked! I figured I was likely in the extreme minority/on
an island with the extra innings rule (I’ve come around to really loving
it) but I also am fine just doing normal extra innings moving forward.

NJR Mike

On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 9:23 AM Noel Steere <noel.steere at rcn.com> wrote:

> My initial reaction is “same”, but I’ve heard of a good compromise:  3
> innings of regular extras (10th-12th), ghost runner on 2b thereafter.
>
> But I’m the end, a large number of the reasons for doing it have to do
> with things in real life that are not a concern for us:  Adding hours to
> game time; maintaining the general public’s interest.  There’s some issues
> with bullpen management, but that’s just always been there for over 100
> years.
>
> So my choice is still “No”
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 7, 2023, at 6:23 AM, Joel Roberts via Members <
> members at lists.ibl.org> wrote:
>
> 
>
> The placement runner is from Hades. I will vote NO forever on that rule.
>
> On Monday, 6 March 2023 at 10:22:32 pm GMT-5, Mike Monostra <
> monostram1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I guess I'll bring up the question no one else has (surprisingly) brought
> up yet ... wouldn't adding the placement runner in extra innings cut down
> on the number of long games?
>
> It's too late to talk about adding the placement runner for IBL 2023,
> especially because it's not coded into GRS and would require a new version.
> But it's something that I think we should at least address or vote on down
> the line since this is a permanent MLB rule now.
>
> NJR Mike
>
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 3:46 PM Sean Sweda <sweda at ibl.org> wrote:
>
> Since it would appear that support for this rule change has increased
> substantially the simplest solution would be to fast-track it via the
> Commissioner's edit process.  Essentially this change to 4.1.2 could be
> proposed as an edit and as long as no owner objects it could be added to
> the Constitution immediately.  IOW, if support for this is unanimous then
> no vote is necessary.
>
> I wrote the rule and it is designed to work exactly the same as emergency
> injury replacements, you simply report it with your other transactions
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:21 PM, Brent Cunningham
> <gettysburg.generals at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm not a fan of making rules changes after the draft (they should be
> > decided on for the following season during the playoffs/prior to the
> > draft IMHO), but I'd vote for this, especially if there are going to be
> > rules implemented limiting the use of position players as pitchers.
> >
> > That said, if it's a mess for anyone administrating transactions, I'd
> > reconsider voting yes.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brent Cunningham
> > Owner/Manager
> > Gettysburg Generals Baseball Club
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 3:36 PM George Blas <glblas7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Now that it is the offseason is there a possibility at the minimum of
> > putting this proposal from below up to a vote again?
> >
> > I would think the ability to recall pitchers after long extra inning
> > games or DH would be at the minimum a required change - especially
> > with MLB recognizing the need to minimize long games with the rule
> > changes and the permanent ghost runner now.
> >
> > Other options of course could be considered but I'd think at the
> > minimum we need to do something.
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 2016-01) Allow teams to make in-series pitcher transactions due to extra
> > innings or double-headers
> >
> > add section 4.1.2:
> >
> > 4.1.2  Special Pitcher Activations
> >
> > A team may replace pitcher(s) on the active roster with pitcher(s) on the
> > inactive roster after any game that extends beyond the 9th inning,
> after
> > the
> > completion of a suspended game played on the same day as another game, or
> > anytime during a series with a double-header (including between DH
> games).
> > Any pitcher activated in this fashion must have been eligible to be
> > activated for
> > the current week (as per 3.2.2).
> >
> > Teams may not sign free agents in this situation, only players on the
> > inactive roster at the start of the series are eligible replacements.
> > Special transactions should be reported with the GRS for the series.
> > Players deactivated in this manner must remain inactive for the next two
> > weeks, just as if they were deactivated after the conclusion of the
> series.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:11 PM Patrick Gibbs <pjgibbs at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Seems reasonable to me except for the between DH part.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 7:22 PM Sean Sweda <sweda at ibl.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Apr 23, 2022, at 10:05 PM, Andrew Selder via Members
> > >> <members at lists.ibl.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I’d like to propose emergency transactions be allowed after extra
> > inning
> > >> > games.
> > >> >
> > >> > Jed and I played a 15 inning game in game 2, which left me exactly
> one
> > >> > available reliever in gm 3. In real life, this would never be
> > allowed to
> > >> > happen. Relievers would be optioned and other recalled from AAA.
> > >> >
> > >> > The relievers optioned would be ineligible for the next two weeks.
> > >> >
> > >> > Andrew
> > >>
> > >> FYI -- I wrote a rule change proposal to allow this in 2016 but it was
> > >> voted down.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2016-01) Allow teams to make in-series pitcher transactions due to
> extra
> > >> innings or double-headers
> > >>
> > >> add section 4.1.2:
> > >>
> > >> 4.1.2  Special Pitcher Activations
> > >>
> > >> A team may replace pitcher(s) on the active roster with pitcher(s)
> on
> > the
> > >> inactive roster after any game that extends beyond the 9th inning,
> > after the
> > >> completion of a suspended game played on the same day as another
> game,
> > or
> > >> anytime during a series with a double-header (including between DH
> > games).
> > >> Any
> > >> pitcher activated in this fashion must have been eligible to be
> > activated for
> > >> the current week (as per 3.2.2).
> > >>
> > >> Teams may not sign free agents in this situation, only players on the
> > >> inactive roster at the start of the series are eligible replacements.
> > >> Special transactions should be reported with the GRS for the series.
> > >> Players deactivated in this manner must remain inactive for the next
> two
> > >> weeks, just as if they were deactivated after the conclusion of the
> > series.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > --
> > > Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
>
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