[IBL] Christmas

Doug Palmer aeronutty43 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 23 10:38:08 EST 2016


I'd like to glom on as well and wish everyone a happy and safe holiday from
the Sand Crabs!!!

You can't spell "Happy Holidays from the Sand Crabs" without Sand Crabs!!!
😀

Oh, and I jumped on the "start the draft" chant bandwagon  because during
the holidays, jumping on and off bandwagons is my form of exercise.

Doug
Baltimore Sand Crabs 🦀  🦀


On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 10:20 AM Danny Woosley <t1gercub2 at hotmail.com>
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> On Dec 22, 2016 9:15 PM, Brent Cunningham <gettysburg.generals at gmail.com>
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> Well said, Joel.  I am in the camp that gets frustrated by a slower draft,
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> however long it takes?  Like I said, my short-term memory fails me, and I
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> the regular season, so just putting forth the idea.
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> Happy holidays, or Merry Christmas, or whatever particular phrase suits
> you.  I'm still glad and thankful to be a part of this league, especially
> to Chris for reaching out to me years ago,
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> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Joel Roberts via Members
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> There is a reason that, aside from the pick-by-list portion of the draft,
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> I have been involved with the league, that a good faith effort will be made
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> exploring trades and researching potential picks *before* the owner is "on
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> these things out in advance, if possible. I may add that the draft has
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> *From:* Alex Campbell <arc213 at gmail.com>
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> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 December 2016, 13:07
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> *Subject:* [IBL] Draft
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> For those of you who are grumbling about pace of the draft, you should put
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> officially starts in February and HAV does not have to make a pick now. And
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