[IBL] Opinions on the alternate pitching fatigue rules?

Jocelyn Labbe jocelyn_labbe at me.com
Sun Apr 13 19:59:37 EDT 2014


Used it week one and found little difference in terms of usage for a series. However I wonder if it won't make it harder to correctly manage usage over the season. 

Jocelyn
On Apr 13, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Sean Sweda <sweda at ibl.org> wrote:

> I disagree, if batters reaching safely count against rest requirements then to be fair they should also count toward usage.
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> In any case, this is a debate that should happen at a more appropriate time.
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> Sean
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> On Apr 13, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Nelson Lu wrote:
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>> I am not so sure that changing the usage rules are necessary.  As it stands, if we go over to the BFP rules that Sean proposed, the bad pitchers will have difficulty getting usage regardless of whether we change it to an IP or PA based usage rule because letting bad pitchers pitch forever means that they will miss many more days than under the current rules, and therefore can’t pitch as often.  And I don’t think there is anything wrong with that; bad pitchers should be difficult to get usage for.
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>> On Apr 13, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Sean Sweda <sweda at ibl.org> wrote:
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>>> I've been using them in every game so far.  I've found that in most cases its easier to predict the stints of your relievers because you don't have the uncertainty of innings/baserunners.  The new rules eliminate a lot of RP abuse that we've come to accept as "normal", so I'd recommend everybody giving it a try even if it's just a few exhibition games.  
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>>> FYI, if we switch to using the new system we are going to have to change pitcher usage from IP to something resembling BF, (IP + H + BB) is probably the simplest solution.  Without that change its going to be much, much harder to get bad pitchers to 75%.
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>>> Sean
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>>> On Apr 13, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Doug Palmer wrote:
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>>>> All,
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>>>> I'm curious if anyone has played a series with the alternate fatigue rules?  Chris (MAD) and myself played our series with the new numbers and my first opinion of it was that it was both fun and challenging at the same time.
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>>>> I liked that I could anticipate when the fatigue would occur (the 27th batter for most all of my starters).  It did seem to put an emphasis on the middle relievers/set up men, but that mimics the major leagues (which I'd assume is the intent).  But more importantly, it took the early blowout/chew up my bullpen factor out of play.  Starters went about 7 innings, a couple relievers ate up the rest. 
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>>>> Bottom line, it FELT like I had more control over my staff (albeit, a 3-game series is a small sample size).  Now, whether or not it survives these initial impressions over the long haul, we'll see.  But I'm mostly curious if anyone else has played a series this way and what they felt/saw/experienced.  If you haven't yet, I'd recommend that you try it, if only for 1 series, to get a feel and develop an opinion. 
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>>>> And as a side note, you should all feel better in knowing that the Crabs are no longer above .500 and that the world is working its way back towards a "normalcy".  So, all you looking for further signs of the apocalypse can rest assured that for now at least, the world isn't ending.
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>>>> Doug Palmer
>>>> Baltimore Sand Crabs
>>>> IBL
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