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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/08/2015 06:23 PM, Sean Sweda
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<div>The IBL game does not allow a switch hitter to decide what
side he hits from, he is required to hit from the opposite side
that the pitcher is throwing. This is because over 99% of all
PAs by switch hitters happen this way. Venditte should be
treated exactly the same, except required to pitch with the same
arm as the side the batter hits because this will be true for
the vast majority of his matchups. Only in the situation where
Venditte faces a switch hitter do we have to give someone a
choice in order to break the stalemate.</div>
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<div>IMO giving the batter the choice in this situation would be
incorrect because it is <span style="background-color:
rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">completely antithetical to the
decision tree that occurs in reality. </span>When Venditte
faces a switch hitter with a significant platoon split in real
life he will have the option to force the batter hit from his
weaker side. The defense dictates the matchup, the offense
merely gets to gain the platoon advantage afterward.</div>
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<div>I can see an argument for giving the switch hitter some kind
of bonus in order</div>
<div>to simulate the platoon advantage that is missing
(Venditte's card will be based mostly on PA with the advantage).
Standard platoon advantages are very small though, we're only
talking about a few extra hits/walks. If Venditte proved to be
extremely poor without the platoon advantage I could even see
forcing him to use his fatigue numbers. However, we're going to
be dealing with a tiny sample size after only one season. I
wouldn't be comfortable dinging him that hard unless his MLB
manager was consistently pulling him vs switch hitters.</div>
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Sean
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On Jun 8, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Kevin Greenberg <<a
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<div>Correct. My point is that real control is in the hand of
the offense. Letting the defensive manager decide would
allow each batter's weakest side to be exposed. Probably not
what we want to do.
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<div>Maybe let D manager decide but allow a team to say "hit
Righty against V no matter how he throws" or something like
that<span></span><br>
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On Monday, June 8, 2015, Sean Sweda <<a
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<div>The MLB rule requires Venditte to declare which arm
he's using at the beginning of the AB. The hitter is
then allowed to choose which side to hit from. If you
want to see this in action watch what happens before
Swihart's AB in Venditte's first appearance.</div>
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Sean
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Kevin Greenberg <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>MLB is letting the batter select the side and
then Venditte <span></span>picks. So we should let
the offensive manager designate if he so chooses.
If not, let the defensive manager. <br>
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On Friday, June 5, 2015, Russell Peltz <<a
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<div>That's fairly straightforward.</div>
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<div>I'm more worried about how to treat him
for rest purposes.</div>
<div>Do we have to track how many batters he
faced with each hand?</div>
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Could his left arm require a day of rest, but
not his right arm?<br>
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Nelson Lu <<a
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Members <<a
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Venditte will get a single card with
"S" listed as the way he throws. For
LH or RH batters he would be required
to pitch from the same side as the
batter (e.g. considered throwing RH to
a RHB), since that's what's going to
happen in the vast majority of his MLB
matchups. This is functionally the
same as how we treat switch hitters,
except they obviously are required to
hit from the opposite side as the
pitcher. When Venditte faces a switch
hitter the simplest solution would be
to require the defensive manager to
pick a side from which to throw and
then require the switch hitter to hit
from the opposite side.<br
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In MLB, the applicable rule is rule 8.01(f). Had to do a little
digging to find it.<br>
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<big><b>Rule 8.01</b></big><br>
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<i><b>(f) A pitcher must indicate visually to the umpire-in-chief,
the batter and any runners</b></i><i><b><br>
</b></i><i><b>the hand with which he intends to pitch, which may
be done by wearing his glove</b></i><i><b><br>
</b></i><i><b>on the other hand while touching the pitcher’s
plate. The pitcher is not permitted to</b></i><i><b><br>
</b></i><i><b>pitch with the other hand until the batter is
retired, the batter becomes a runner, the</b></i><i><b><br>
</b></i><i><b>inning ends, the batter is substituted for by a
pinch-hitter or the pitcher incurs an</b></i><i><b><br>
</b></i><i><b>injury. In the event a pitcher switches pitching
hands during an at-bat because he</b></i><i><b><br>
</b></i><i><b>has suffered an injury, the pitcher may not, for the
remainder of the game, pitch</b></i><i><b><br>
</b></i><i><b>with the hand from which he has switched. The
pitcher shall not be given the</b></i><i><b><br>
</b></i><i><b>opportunity to throw any preparatory pitches after
switching pitching hands. Any</b></i><i><b><br>
</b></i><i><b>change of pitching hands must be indicated clearly
to the umpire-in-chief.</b></i><br>
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The general flavor of the rule seems to support the idea of Venditte
choosing which arm he wants to throw with first, then allowing the
offense to decide which side to hit from based off that.<br>
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Of course, if the batter is not a switch-hitter, then I agree with
Sean's comment that Venditte should be required to pitch from the
same side as the batter for the sake of simplicity.<br>
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Just a view from someone with a bunch of time on his hands ...<br>
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Larry<br>
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