<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>It wasn't the only offer -- I sent Doug one.<br><br>Sent from my GrumpyPhone</div><div><br>On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Mike Monostra <<a href="mailto:monostram1@gmail.com">monostram1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Personally, I created a draft pick value chart (basically an IBL-version of a pick value chart NFL and NBA teams use to trade picks) to help make decision on pick-for-pick trades and the trade above doesn't add up on the chart. <br><br>At the same time, Brent brought up a point I hadn't considered. A pick is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If Greg's offer was the only one Doug received, then his options are a) accept the trade or b) let the picks go to waste. That sort of changes everything. If were higher valued picks, it'd be a bigger issue honestly. <br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Brent Cunningham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gettysburg.generals@gmail.com" target="_blank">gettysburg.generals@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Personally, I don't think it's fair. I understand that they were unusable picks, and in fact Doug emailed me asking if I could use them, so maybe he took the only offer he got; but a #8 next year in exchange for both of them? That certainly seems unbalanced. Certainly COU could have given up COU #6 (2016) to make it a more balanced trade in everyone's eyes. That said, supply and demand, right? A pick(s) worth what someone will pay for it.</div><div><br></div><div>However, I also believe that trades between guys with as much experience shouldn't be protested unless there is obvious collusion between the two. If Doug's OK with it, it's his team, and he's done a fine job rebuilding it in my opinion.</div><div><br></div><div>Just my .02</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-Brent</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Noel Steere <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:noel.steere@rcn.com" target="_blank">noel.steere@rcn.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>It's certainly not a frictionless market, but I think if 1-2 were up for sale there'd be a lot more interested buyers. This is an unfortunate situation where it's not worth the effort for most of us to engage in the picks, so the only bird gets the worm, at a discount rate.</div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div><div><br>On Feb 2, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Mike Monostra <<a href="mailto:monostram1@gmail.com" target="_blank">monostram1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I agree with you Larry, I was just stating why I believe the trade was made.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Larry Selleck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lms4th@yahoo.com" target="_blank">lms4th@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><p dir="ltr"><font><font>Does</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>that</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>then</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>mean</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>that</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>if</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>someone</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>is</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>not</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>using</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>their</font></font><font><font> #1 </font></font><font><font>that</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>it</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>then</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>has</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>the</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>same</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>vale</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>as</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>a</font></font><font><font> #8 </font></font><font><font>in</font></font><font><font> 2016? </font></font><font><font>Using</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>that</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>logic</font></font><font><font>, </font></font><font><font>that</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>would</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>mean</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>that</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>if</font></font><font><font>
</font></font><font><font>MCM</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>had</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>no</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>use</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>for</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>the</font></font><font><font> 2nd </font></font><font><font>pick</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>in</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>the</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>draft</font></font><font><font>
(</font></font><font><font>CHA</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>Abreu</font></font><font><font>), </font></font><font><font>he</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>should</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>of</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>just</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>traded</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>it</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>for</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>a</font></font><font><font>
</font></font><font><font>late</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>round</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>pick</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>the</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>following</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>year</font></font><font><font> ... </font></font><font><font>So</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>would</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>you</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>trade</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>Abreu</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>for</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>a</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>late</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>round</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>pick</font></font><font><font>? </font></font><font><font>That</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>is</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>the</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>reasoning</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>be</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>used</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>here</font></font><font><font>, </font></font><font><font>I</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>simply</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>used</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>an</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>extreme</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>example</font></font><font><font>.</font></font></p>
<p dir="ltr"><font><font>A</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>pick</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>in</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>any</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>round</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>has</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>an</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>inherent</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>value</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>equivalent</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>to</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>the</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>level</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>of</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>player</font></font><font><font>/</font></font><font><font>prospect</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>you</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>are</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>able</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>to</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>generally</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>select</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>in</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>that</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>round</font></font><font><font>. </font></font><font><font>Because can</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>individual</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>does</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>not</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>need</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>that</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>pick</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>does</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>not</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>automatically</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>mean</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>that</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>pick</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>suddenly</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>has</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>no</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>value</font></font><font><font>.</font></font></p>
<p dir="ltr"><font><font>I</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>can</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>see</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>the</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>logic</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>in</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>the</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>sense</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>that</font></font><font><font> "</font></font><font><font>if</font></font><font><font>
</font></font><font><font>I'm</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>not</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>going</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>to</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>use</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>something</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>might</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>as</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>well</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>let</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>someone</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>else</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>have</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>it</font></font><font><font>.". </font></font><font><font>That</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>is</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>simply</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>being</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>generous</font></font><font><font>, </font></font><font><font>however</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>in</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>this league</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>there</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>is</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>the</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>concept</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>of</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>fair</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>value</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>and</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>trades</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>are</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>loosely</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>evaluated</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>on</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>the</font></font><font><font> fairness, </font></font><font><font>or</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>equality</font></font><font><font>, </font></font><font><font>of</font></font><font><font>
</font></font><font><font>both</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>sides</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>of</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>the</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>deal</font></font><font><font>.</font></font></p>
<p dir="ltr"><font><font>I</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>guess</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>if</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>everyone</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>else</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>think</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>it</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>is</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>equal</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>and</font></font><font><font>
</font></font><font><font>fair</font></font><font><font>, </font></font><font><font>then</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>I</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>stand</font></font><font><font> </font></font><font><font>corrected</font></font><font><font> ... </font></font></p>
<p dir="ltr"><u><font><font>Cheers</font></font></u><br>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top"> <div style="color:rgb(126,125,128);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif">From:"Mike Monostra" <<a href="mailto:monostram1@gmail.com" target="_blank">monostram1@gmail.com</a>><br>Date:Mon, 2 Feb, 2015 at 15:46<br>Subject:Re: [IBL] Transactions thru today<br><br></div><div><div> <div dir="ltr">I'm assuming BAL made the trade because they aren't using either of the #6 picks. <div><br clear="none"></div><div>NJR Mike</div></div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Larry Selleck <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">lms4th@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div dir="ltr"><span>Hello,</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr">Did I read that correctly?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">BAL T<span style="font-size:16px">rades BAL#6 (15), GTY#6 (15) to COU for COU#8 (16)</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:16px">Trading two number 6 picks for a number 8 in 2016 can't possibly be an even trade be any definition I can think of. Must be a mistake.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:16px">Larry</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></span></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:13px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> IBL Registrar <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">registrar@ibl.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">members@ibl.org</a> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 1 February 2015, 18:00<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [IBL] Transactions thru today<br clear="none"> </font> </div><div><div> <div><br clear="none">If I missed any or any mistakes just tell me, I'll get them
corrected.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">BAL -- Trades PAD#6 (15) to CAN for CAN#6 (16)<br clear="none">-- Trades BAL#6 (15), GTY#6 (15) to COU for COU#8 (16)<br clear="none">BOW -- Drafts MIN Santana 1st Round (15)<br clear="none">CAN -- Trades CAN#6 (16) to BAL for PAD#6 (15)<br clear="none">-- Trades MAD#4 (15), NYK#5 (15), SEA#2 (15) to MOR for MOR#3 (15), <br clear="none">MOR#4 (15), MOR#5 (15)<br clear="none">COU -- Trades COU#1 (15) to PAD for PAD#2 (15), PAD#5 (16)<br clear="none">-- Trades COU#8 (15), MAD#8 (15) to HAV for HAV#8 (16)<br clear="none">-- Trades COU#8 (16) to BAL for BAL#6 (15), GTY#6 (15)<br clear="none">-- Trades COU#3 (16), PAD#5 (16) to PAD for WAS LaRoche<br clear="none">GTY -- Trades TEX Rios to SDQ for SDQ#3 (16)<br clear="none">HAV -- Trades HAV#8 (16) to COU for COU#8 (15), MAD#8 (15)<br clear="none">KAT -- Trades COU#5 (15), KAT#5 (15) to
ODM for ODM#4 (16)<br clear="none">MNM -- Trades MNM#4 (15), POR#4 (15) to MOR for MIL Weeks<br clear="none">MOR -- Trades MOR#3 (15), MOR#4 (15), MOR#5 (15) to CAN for MAD#4 <br clear="none">(15), NYK#5 (15), SEA#2 (15)<br clear="none">-- Trades MIL Weeks to MNM for MNM#4 (15), POR#4 (15)<br clear="none">NYK -- Trades DET MartinezV. to PAD for PAD#1 (16)<br clear="none">-- Trades NYK#1 (15), NYK#2 (16) to SEA for SD Grandal, SEA#4 (15)<br clear="none">ODM -- Trades ODM#4 (16) to KAT for COU#5 (15), KAT#5 (15)<br clear="none">-- Trades ODM#3 (16), ODM#9 (15) to SFP for COL delaRosa<br clear="none">PAD -- Trades PAD#1 (16) to NYK for DET MartinezV.<br clear="none">-- Trades WAS LaRoche to COU for COU#3 (16), PAD#5 (16)<br clear="none">-- Trades PAD#2 (15), PAD#5 (16) to COU for COU#1 (15)<br clear="none">-- Drafts BOS Vazquez 1st Round (15)<br clear="none">PHI -- Drafts TB Kiermaier 1st Round (15)<br clear="none">POR -- Trades MAD#3 (15) to SDQ for LAA Freese<br clear="none">-- Trades SDQ#2 (15) to WMS for SF Morse<br clear="none">SDQ -- Trades SDQ#3 (16) to GTY for TEX Rios<br clear="none">-- Drafts SD Hahn 1st Round (15)<br clear="none">-- Trades LAA Freese to POR for MAD#3 (15)<br clear="none">SEA -- Drafts BOS Castillo 1st Round (15)<br clear="none">-- Drafts NYA Betances 1st Round (15)<br clear="none">-- Trades SD Grandal, SEA#4 (15) to NYK for NYK#1 (15), NYK#2 (16)<br clear="none">SFP -- Trades COL delaRosa to ODM for ODM#3 (16), ODM#9 (15)<br clear="none">WMS -- Trades SF Morse to POR for SDQ#2 (15)<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div></div></div> </div> </div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></td> </tr> </tbody> </table></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote></div><br></div>
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